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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:44 pm 
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Thanks to everyone who gave advice here for the pre-show detail we gave our friend's convertible yesterday.

I was joined by our friend Andy (Murray on DW) to spruce up our friend's Classic SAAB 900 convertible in advance of next weekend's car show at the Chipping Steam Fair in Lancashire. Simon had pulled his back out the day before (a likely story :lol: ), so we gave him a few chores to do that he could sit down and do ... like the wheels :twisted:

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From memory, this is what we did:

1. Wash with Zymol shampoo (the green stuff) ... arches cleaned with Meg's All Purpose Cleaner when the wheels were removed
2. Dry off with Meg's Last Touch and a couple of Eurow towels
3. Clay the (new) bonnet with Meg's clay (the white stuff) and rinse down
4. Play around with Armor All Car Wax Gel on the boot
5. Clay the rest of the car and rinse down
6. G220 the bonnet with Sonus 1, 2 & 3 ... then the boot
7. Clean the windows with Autoglym Fast Glass
8. Go over the paint with all manner of product from Autoglym Paint Restorer, Meg's ScratchX and Car-Lack68 NSC in various places
9. Wash down with Chemical Guys Citrus Wash & Gloss taking care on the boot and bonnet
10. Glaze with Chemical Guys Ez Glaze
11. Wax with Collinite 476S on the bonnet & boot and Meguiars #16 on the sides
12. Clean wheels with Chemical Guys Blue Rim Cleaner, various brushes and a little help from Meg's All Purpose Cleaner
13. Shine up all exterior plastics with Chemical Guys New Look Trim Gel
14. Shine up interior with Chemical Guys Sprayable Silk Shine
15. Fix 'Bonzo Dog' leaping dog mascot to the bonnet (I'll explain more about this later)

The car was not in bad condition at all and having had a look at it recently, I thought we would get away with a good wash, polish and "detail". That is, until he told us that he'd bought a new (well, old) bonnet. This bonnet was not rusting underneath, but it had been stored outside for what looked like a good couple of years. There was some bad scratches on it and the surface was pure sandpaper:

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So, washed with a strong solution of Zymol shampoo (the green stuff), wiped down with Meg's Last Touch and clayed where appropriate - so, the bonnet mostly and a few little bits around the rest of the car, we decided a machine polish on the bonnet was going to be a definite! Here's Andy, seemingly joyous about cracking his G220 out and getting down to some polishing.

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Meanwhile we popped the wheels off, cleaned the arches with Meg's APC and left our spinal suffering pal (yeah, right) to do that "little" job :twisted:

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Good luck ... we armed him with some brushes, a bottle of 1:3 diluted Chemical Guys Blue Rim Cleaner and some Meg's APC.

Like a man possessed, Andy got straight onto the more prevalent scratches with his G220, Sonus pads and the Sonus polishes.

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We did do a stripe of making tape across one of the scratches to show that we were making progress and once done, the bonnet looked ace :cool: Some of the scratches were too deep and have gone through the clearcoat and in parts the paint, too. We did take all that we could off and gave the more obvious defects a good enough going over to make them look okay.

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The dark scratch can still be seen, but the clearcoat was now properly polished and reflected really well. We tried all sorts of stuff, from Autoglym Paint Restorer, through Meg's ScratchX to SRP to Car-Lack68 NSC and stopped once we'd got the best finish we thought we would get on the deep scratches.

Likewise, the boot had a good shine now, too:

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... so we gave the whole car a coat of Chemical Guys EZ Glaze (with Acrylic whatits :lol: ) and all agreed that this had enhanced the shine a little:

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We had a little play around with waxes, trying DW Wet Wet Wet Wax, Meguiars #16, Collinite 476S and Collinite 915 settling on Collinite 476S as the one to use over the whole car which we applied by bare hand and buffed off after allowing it to dwell for about 5 minutes.

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The scruffy unshaven character on the right is me, BTW :oops:

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I'm not sure what Andy is laughing at ... I can't think waxing a bonnet is that funny :lol:

Phew! That's the paintwork done ... time for a well earned break :cool:

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At this point Andy toddled off to wash his own car (thanks, pal
:roll: :lol: ) and Simon's wife's SAAB 9000 (now that's a big car) ... just washes, which left me to go around all the external trim with Chemical Guys New Look Trim Gel. This car does not have the bodykit that ours do, so that cut down on quite a lot of work ... or so I thought, but it was made up with the plastic tonneau cover.

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I then moved onto the inside with Chemical Guys Sprayable Silk Shine ... finished!!!

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... that's the SAAB 9000 in the background, mid-wash.

My Mrs turned up, turning the street back in time to the early '90s :shock:

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We popped the right wheels on and Linda, Simon's Mrs came out to admire our hard work ...

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... Andy throws a peace sign :cool:

Done ... and done!!!

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So ... let's tuck it away and go and have some tea. Phew! Three friends, eight hours and a lot of fun. Much enjoyed ...

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Oh ... the dog mascot?

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Simon's nickname is 'Bonzo Dog' and this little fella is a cartoon character from the '30s, called Bonzo Dog:

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Think of it like a little play on the classic leaping Jaguar :cool:
... don't worry ... it's fixed on with nylon thread and would snap off in a flash with an unexpected introduction to a human being; not that a tonne and a bit of car wouldn't hurt, but ...

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:17 pm 
Brilliant and what a lovely sight all those together and all shining, well, the 9000 was getting there.


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:50 pm 
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Great job, you deserved those beers.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:57 pm 
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Thanks guys ... I think we took it about as far as we could as a couple of amateurs. There were scratches that needed sanding and spraying, a bumper that needed some heat treatment to get scratches and a dent out and the wheels has started to shed their lacquer.

What we did get a chance to do was stop, think about it, try out a couple of ideas and settle on the best way forward. We had a lot of time to do the job, especially with two of us. For a couple of hobby detailers, it was a lot of fun and we got to put the knowledge and experience that we've learned here and DW into practice sparking off each other - I think that was the most fun part.

I think we got a really good result and certainly one which made the owner very proud indeed :cool:

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Top job!

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:36 pm 
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Hello!! Im Murray on here as well Paul!

It was a good day, I was taking a day off from moving house so I havent got round to sorting my photos yet.

One thing i will say though is that i am once again dissapointed with the G220. i was expecting more especially as this paint is 2 stage? On mine (the black hard top in the photo of all 3) i had poor results and although it brought the colour right up, it still left a lot of, what i would have called minor, defects.

More practise needed maybe!?

The cleaning was very good fun! the 9000 was washed twice, once with a coat of megs APC on the bottom to get the grime off and again afterwards with some "big orange" shampoo to clean off the APC and the last of the grime!

(was dried with last touch and microfibres!)


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:49 pm 
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'alright fella ... what a fun day. I had a great time! Fantastic food ... I should say that we were treated to a big bacon and mushroom butty in the morning, a nice spinach and ham quiche at lunch and a huge piece of cow for tea, all courtesy of Linda. Stunning :cool:

We have the very cream of Detailing World over here, so I'm sure if you post a question about pads and polish here, you'll get a distilled answer straight to the point from people who know. We don't stand for recycling information here - strictly hands-on experience :!:

I thought we achieved a lot with the G220. Agreed, the clay and SRP might have achieved pretty close, but I wonder if we just needed something more aggressive? SAAB clearcoat seemed pretty tough to me. Did we try AG Paint Renovator on the machine? I don't think we did. Menz polishes are well recommended for BMW paint and I think SAAB (certainly from our era) is in the same arena.

I found this chart really usefull to understand the abrasive qualities of compounds and polishes:
http://www.dano.pocketrubbish.com/detai ... tchart.htm

... you see Sonus 3 is regarded as a medium cut - I think we needed a more harsh cut, like SSR3. Seriously, did we try AG Paint Restorer on the machine, or was it just by 'German' applicator?

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Love that shine :cool: and I see you like real beer, none of that lager rubbish :puke: :lol:

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We were bang in the middle of the Aire Valley, so Timothy Taylor's Landlord Ale was just the right brew :cool: It translates to the bottle very well indeed! Nothing like a creamy glass of the stuff from a seasoned hand-pulled tap, but as a bottled beer, bloomin' good ... and VERY VERY welcome at the time :wink:

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Image Sounds great; Not too many units now :lol:

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A great read and really good to put some faces to names! Top job guys.


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very nice excellent =D>


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