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 Post subject: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:07 am 
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Guys with black cars - Do you use a specific 'dark wax' such as this:

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/megui ... _1265.html

or just a regular wax? I see that one claims to 'Clean, polish and protect in one step'. From what I've learnt so far, generally 'all in one' products aren't considered to be all that great. Does that apply here or is this dark wax worth trying? I'm currently using Megs Ultimate Liquid Wax and just pondering whether to buy more or try a wax specifically made for dark cars.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:03 pm 
Now you have definitely got the detailing bug! :lol:

Although there are numerous waxes which give a great 'look', there are often specialist waxes which are needed. Not just for paint colours, but also for different paint types.

For example, Zymol created their Ebony wax just for black painted cars and Angelwax created AG Wax just for silver paints. The key feature of these specialist waxes is that they are 'colour charged'. They maximise and enhance the 'look' they produce for that specific paint colour.

Indeed, my own car is medium dark blue, but I wanted a deeper blue 'look', so I used a several layers of a black colour charged wax. In another post, a long while back in this Forum, a pro detailer enhanced the metalic fllake in a blue Subaru WRX by using a Purple colour charged wax.

One thing to remember about waxes....it's all about the 'prep'.....You can apply a £2000 wax on an unpolished car and it will look no better than one costing £10. Get the prep done right and reap the benefits.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:14 pm 
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Thanks, so it is well worth using a 'colour charged' wax over a bog standard one?

I have a Diamond Black Pearlescent metallic Polo, what do you recommend?


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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:15 pm 
it depends upon what 'look' that YOU want to achieve, how much you want to spend on a wax and how long you want it to last for. If you're going to use a colour charged wax, this will make the black look deeper black and glossy, but the colour charged element will also deepen the colour of any flake in the paint.

Black paint always looks fantastic with a 'mile' deep gloss with a rippling lustre, rather than pure reflectivity (well that's how I would want it to look). This 'look' comes at a price of losing some definition to the paint's flake, even after many hours of 'jewelling' the paint by machine polishing, several layers of sealant/glaze and then apply several layers of buttery/oily wax.

To do all the above I use NanotechSST's Super Gloss (final finishing polish), wiped down afterwards with Isopropyl alcohol solution (IPA) to remove any polish residues, then several applications of Zaino Z2 sealant (they call it a polish), followed by several coats of either Scholl Vintage wax (£154 for 200gm now!) or Raceglaze British Classic wax (a sample pot, enough for 2 coats, can be bought for £5)

Dodo juice also have an inexpensive oily wax which looks good on black paint...Orange Crush. However, the downside of this wax is that it doesn't last more than a month as opposed to 6+ months with the Scholl and 6 months for the Raceglaze.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:28 pm 
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Well I certainly don't want to pay £154 for a tub of wax!

I didn't think that DJ Orange Crush was for black paint?


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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:02 pm 
It wasn't designed for black paint, but the oily nature of this really works well on black cars.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:19 pm 
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Going back to Willington's earlier comments, what products are you going to use, to prepare the paint, before applying a wax :?:

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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:07 pm 
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It was clayed not long ago, I'm currently using AG SRP then Megs Ultimate Liquid Wax after, I just wanted to know if using dark car specific wax (that doesn't break the bank) is a better idea. Also is a sealant better than a wax on black cars? Is there a better polish to use to prep a black car?

I want products that are easy to apply and remove, I don't mind giving some time to the job but I don't want to literally take all day putting coat after coat of stuff on.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:19 pm 
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The problem is, the finish you are after, is very subjective and also a personal view. What someone likes :D , you may not [-(

You could try some SAMPLES

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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:25 pm 
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Thanks for the replies. I just did the first polish & wax of the year. Polo looks great. Well it did for about 3 days before the dirt & dust came! You can still see the shine through it though!

Still using SRP followed by Megs Ultimate Liquid Wax but looking into using black car specific stuff next time. I'm seriously NOT in the market for really high end, circa £100 products but ideally want something that lasts more than a month, I understand that the Dodo Juice soft waxes look good but only last a month, you then pay mega bucks for LSPs that last 6 months. Surely there is something Inbetween these two extremes?

I keep looking at Poorboys Black Hole glaze & DJ Purple Haze wax. Comments about Orange Crush noted but seen PH praised for black cars in numerous threads all over the net. Either that or Poorboys Natty's Blue wax instead. Thoughts? Will the Black Hole & Natty's combo outlast the Black Hole & Purple Haze combo?

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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:06 pm 
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I've tried the Black hole on the wife's black freelander and diddnt really rate it myself . Dodo juice rainforest run looks nice on darker paints. I've recently tried Armorall shield which looked stunning on black topped with Sonax Bad. If you wanted some black hole I've got a bottle for sale .

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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:39 pm 
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I would have a look at Britemax Black Max Ultra Fine Polishing Glaze before applying a wax http://www.britemax.co.uk/acatalog/Black_Max.html

It's way way better than Blackhole and it leaves a deep wet look :cool: . It can be applied by hand or machine.

Get a sample of DJ Purple Haze wax to add on top and I bet you will smile :D

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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:46 pm 
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Ash wrote:
I would have a look at Britemax Black Max Ultra Fine Polishing Glaze before applying a wax http://www.britemax.co.uk/acatalog/Black_Max.html

It's way way better than Blackhole and it leaves a deep wet look :cool: . It can be applied by hand or machine.

Get a sample of DJ Purple Haze wax to add on top and I bet you will smile :D


Thanks, I'll plan to get that Britemax glaze & sample of DJ Purple Haze for next time. Surprised to hear that the Black Hole isn't rated


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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:47 am 
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Dave79 wrote:
Ash wrote:
I would have a look at Britemax Black Max Ultra Fine Polishing Glaze before applying a wax http://www.britemax.co.uk/acatalog/Black_Max.html

It's way way better than Blackhole and it leaves a deep wet look :cool: . It can be applied by hand or machine.

Get a sample of DJ Purple Haze wax to add on top and I bet you will smile :D


Thanks, I'll plan to get that Britemax glaze & sample of DJ Purple Haze for next time. Surprised to hear that the Black Hole isn't rated


I've seen good results with black hole but Britemax Black Max is much better IMO

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 Post subject: Re: Black Car Wax
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:32 am 
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Have ordered a sample of DDJ Purple Haze based upon this thread,
Sounds just the job for Midnight Black

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