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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:13 am 
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So after my exploits to knock back some of the orange peel on my new red Mercedes GLC, I have apparently become the local expert in all things car paintwork related. The next door neighbour has just bought a 1-year old Kia Sportage in Phantom Black and wants me to do a paint correction for him. There's nothing too serious involved, just the usual swirls and light scratches from the Joe Average 1-bucket wash for the 8000 miles it has covered from new. I thought I'd go new school and left field with this one. The car won't be "enthusiast" maintained so I will seal it with Soft99 Fusso Coat Dark. Being PTFE-based, the Holy Trinity should be present - extreme beading, glossing and longevity. To get the paint straight I thought I try some Nanotech SST Super Gloss Black on a white Chemical Guys Hexlogic Quantum pad. I'm just wondering if anybody has had any experience with this boat polish - yes, I'm looking at you, Willington :wink: I just fancy broadening my horizons but will happily abandon the idea if there's a "Is that wise, Captain Mainwearing" response.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:00 am 
You called ! :lol:

Yep, I have been using the Supergloss polish for about 4 years, as have a few others here. For me, it's the best final finishing polish available. Yes, it was designed for the final finishing of gel coated racing yacht hulls, but works equally well on most paints. For ceramic hardcoats, it is best to use NanotechSST's Ceramic ultra fine (this has just that extra bit of abrasive quality whic is needed). The Super Gloss polish is a 'non- deminishing abrasive' (pad dependent) polish.

There are a few tricks you can apply when using it...... It's a brilliant final finishing polish, highly lubricated and you can re-activate the abrasive capability by spritzing de-ionized water onto the pad. This makes it extremely economical. For final finishing use the 'jewelling technique'....softest pad possible (I use the black 3M pad...normally used for applying glazes), set the machine to the very lowest speed, apply no pressure and just guide the pad VERY slowly over the paintwork. You will feel the friction between the pad and the paintwork fade away and leaving a fantastic crisp finish.

If you want just that extra bit of cut from it, just switch to a firmer pad. However, this polish is not designed to remove scratches.

Nanotech make 2 Supergloss polishes...Black (for dark colours) and Light (it's actually pale green) for lighter colours. The difference between them is not that they contain fillers, as you may have thought, but in the amount by volume of the abrasive content. Dark colours show imperfections far more than light colours, so the Black Super Gloss has more abrasives in it.

By all means, try Supergloss as the final finishing polish and you won't be dissapointed. However, after decontaminating the paintwork on the Kia, you may find that you do actually require a slightly more aggressive polish prior to using the Super Gloss. Scholl S17+ for the heavier imperfections or S30+ for medium to light, then use the supergloss for an extreme concors gloss finish.

I will make a bet with you.....once you have used Super Gloss as a final finishing polish, you won't ever want to use anything else! :lol:

Please take some piccies of the work done on the KIA and your observations on my recommendations.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:19 am 
Found this old link here on the Forum, the first time I had used Super Gloss.

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17408&hilit=saab+900

Bearing in mind the degree of paintwork correction which was needed and the fact that this Detail was to be for Show standards with limited time available, I did have to use quite a few different polishes. The Super Gloss certainly proved it's worth on the bonnet.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:15 am 
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Peter, you da man!! Thanks for the very valuable insight. I've only seen the car on a forecourt in poor light so far but it looks like it has survived the first year of its life relatively unscathed. TBH, this is a bit of a smoke and mirrors exercise. The neighbour doesn't "get" detailing and I've seen him do a 1-bucket wash starting with the wheels :shake: He is naturally clumsy so just imagine Shrek washing a car. In my German clearcoat arsenal I have stuff like Scholl S3 XXL, Gtechniq P1 and Scholl S20 Black along with the appropriate Spiderpads so I will deal with any serious defects as required. As his concept of the ultimate paint finish is just a retina-searing gloss, I'm sure the Nanotech SST will deliver in spades. The Fusso Coat Dark has slight glaze-like properties so that will also contribute to a higher final gloss level but it is the long-life sheeting properties of the PTFE ingredient that will probably keep the car looking its best by allowing minimal dirt accumulation. Hopefully, if the autumn weather plays nice, I'll post up the finished result later this month

On the upside, I'll hang on to his 500ml of SST and use it to further refine my Merc with another jewelling polish when I strip and redo my Blackfire Wet Ice Over Fire kit in the Spring. BTW, that Saab bonnet is deffo a poster boy for SST. Thanks again for the steer.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:23 am 
You are very welcome...that's what we do in this Forum ...share experience. :D

NanoTech used to be based down near Southampton, now in Cornwall, and they were the UK main agents for Permanon products. Now, they concentrate mainly on boat polishes and boat polishing. About 4 years ago, my house was burgled and the thieves stole all my detailing polishes. When phoning them to order some Supergloss, I mentioned the theft and they sent me (free) their entire range of polishes. Lovely people to deal with. :D


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:06 pm 
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Wow, it probably says something about your extensive collection of desirable detailing products that the thieves decided it was eminently nickable! If they saw my collection they would probably just leave a donation :lol: It is heart-warming to hear that Nanotech stepped up in your moment of despair which does go some way to restore your faith in human nature.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:46 pm 
You could say that I am a polish 'junkie'! :lol: As you start out on your detailing journey, you buy a polish and soon find out that it didn't do the job you needed it too. So you buy another and then another! :oops: I suppose I have about 20 different polishes and 14 different types of pads in my arsenal and all have their use. The key thing is knowing which one to use with which pad for the different degree of imperfection and different paint type....and this only comes with practice (mainly on scrap test panels)

Along the way you will buy some polishes which were TOTALLY WRONG! My first HUGE mistake was to purchase Farecla G3 pro.....I swear that I am still cleaning it's splatter in my garage after 5 years! :lol:

And then your branch out, as you have done, and try another polish...the collection grows and grows... A bit like Mulder's wax collection! :D

Fortunately, you have sought and taken the advise from members of this forum and done your research before buying the items you need....saves you a small fortune in product costs and garage space!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:47 am 
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Just reporting back with the results as requested now project Sportage is finished. The car turned out to be only 8 months old and the Phantom Black metallic paint was in remarkably good condition. I suspect it may have been a company car and had never even been washed until it reached the Motorpoint forecourt for resale. At that point it was probably given a wipedown with some QD. Anyway, it made my job a whole lot easier as I could treat it the same as a 2-stage new car paint correction detail.

I am hugely impressed with the Nanotech SST Super Gloss black boat polish, I hardly had to use any as it just went on for ages. Since the white Hexlogic Quantum is a closed cell foam intended for light polishing, the product didn't soak in to the pad as much thus leaving it where it needed to be to do its job. The lubrication was off the scale and because, after priming, I was only loading the pad with 3 miniscule blobs of polish, there was absolutely zero splatter. An occasional spritz with de-ionised water extended the product life even further and guaranteed no clumping from excessive accumulation. As my neighbour is not an enthusiast like all of us, I didn't bother doing a jewelling pass for that final crisping. I will reserve that process for my Mercedes GLC when I strip its winter coat next Spring.

All that was left was to apply some Soft99's Fusso Coat Dark PTFE-based sealant and the job was done. I must say, in terms of beading, Fusso Coat is a sheeting demon so that will go a long way to minimising the dreaded salt circles that are so noticeable on darker coloured cars. Soft99 claim 12 months real world protection but I would be extremely happy if it can survive just the winter months.

My neigbour was actually quite emotional when he first saw the finished car so perhaps he may even be sufficiently motivated to do his wheels and trim. Maybe I have even ignited a latent OCD in him, who knows. Anyway, here are the photos:


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The black boat polish can be bought here: http://www.nanotechsst.co.uk/super-gloss-polish-black-500ml-295-p.asp
and the Japanese PTFE-based sealant can be bought here: http://www.nipponshine.com/shop/body-sealant/879/

Thanks for looking,
Trev.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:17 pm 
Stunning finish there Trev. :D

The Fusso wax certainly gave it, not only a reflective gloss, but also some 'rippling shimmer'. In my view, that is the best 'look' for a black paint.

I'm pleased that you found the Nanotech Super Gloss all that I described. It really is that good. When you try the 'jewelling' technique in the Spring, you will really apprciate the quality of SG....literally, you will feel the friction between the paint and the pad decrease as it does it's work....and this comes from the amount of lubrication permitting the long time spent on the passes.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:22 pm 
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Nice work on the Sportage, looking nice & :cool:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:49 pm 
Fabulous work, congratulations on the outcome =D>


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:05 pm 
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Result! Your neighbour should rightly be emotional, you've just saved him a premium detail and made washing it loads easier.

Where are you, ah Hereford... runs off to find houses in Hereford so you can do mine :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:47 pm 
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Thanks for all the encouragement and positive comments, guys. Here's just one more gratuitous reflection shot of the "Sportard", this time showing my red Mercedes GLC looking less SUV and more sporty estate car. :lol:


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After Peter had put me straight regarding the labelling of the polish as "Black" to indicate a higher abrasive content intended for black-hulled boats which show off swirls and scratches better, I was keen to see how my now favourite finishing polish performed on another colour. Enter the KA-tastrophe, a 7-year old silver grey Ford KA. It was both a curse and a bonus at the same time! It had spent its days doing a commute through the endless roadworks of the M6 and its nights parked up under a pine tree. I don't think it had more than an annual hand-wash which explained why the paintwork was swirl-free. Perhaps the copious covering of tar spots and tree sap acted as a paint protector :-k. After the decontamination from Hell, I set about it with the NanotechSST Black and topped off again with the Fusso Coat Dark just to see how it performed on a lighter-coloured car. Again the result was hugely impressive and I find it hard to see how Fusso Coat Light would have performed any better. I suspect the differentiation could be driven by the marketing department to generate increased consumer confidence by offering a colour specific sealant. Here's the KA-tastophe after the 5 hours of effort required to prove the premise it is indeed entirely possible to polish a turd. :buffer:


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:40 pm 
another great result :D You really have got to grips with that combination of products... just imagine what you could achieve using the Jewelling technique in the Spring!


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