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 Post subject: First proper clean
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:14 pm 
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Right, so I've purchased the following items and will be giving the car a through clean either this weekend or the next. (Depends on if the PW arrives by Saturday.)

I've listed the items in the order I think they need to be used/applied and will be using the 2 bucket method. Let me know if anything should be completed in a different order. I've taken a guess at a couple of them so would be good to get confirmation.

Thanks to everyone who helped with product selection in previous threads. Hopefully I'll remember to take pictures to share with everyone.



Exterior
1. Valet Pro - PH Neutral Snow Foam
2. Anglewax - Fastfoam
3. Auto Finesse - Obliterate (Tar and glue remover)
4. Kenotek - Wheel Cleaner Ultra
5. Anglewax - Shampoo
6. GTechniq - E5 Citrus all purpose cleaner
7. Poor Boys - Black Hole - to be applied with black 3m pad
8. Poor Boys - EX-P (sealant) - to be applied with black 3m pad

Glass External (including panoramic roof)
9. Angelwax - H2GO
10. Angelwax - Vision

Interior
11. Anglewax - AnGEL (interior Vinyl and plastic restorer)

Could do with some advice - Can the Anglewax Vision product can or should be used on the inside of the windscreen too?


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:50 pm 
first up:

you only need to use 1. or 2. -not both.

rinse

shampoo wash

rinse

Tar and glue and the kenotek are fine

the APC can be used then to remove any residual baked on sealants/waxes

rinse and dry

7. & 8. are fine.

use angelwax VISION before you seal the external glass with H2Go.

Vision is fine on internal glass and no need to seal the glass inside afterwards.

Good luck with the big clean :) and lots of piccies is always appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:14 pm 
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Thanks Willington. I'm now trying to arrange the Valet Pro is removed from the order placed today.

Hopefully I've understood your instructions. Updated list below...

Exterior
1. Anglewax - Fastfoam
2. Rinse
3. Anglewax - Shampoo
4. Rinse
5. Auto Finesse - Obliterate (Tar and glue remover)
6. Kenotek - Wheel Cleaner Ultra
7. Rinse
8. GTechniq - E5 Citrus all purpose cleaner
9. Rinse
9.1 Dry

10. Poor Boys - Black Hole - to be applied with black 3m pad
11. Poor Boys - EX-P (sealant) - to be applied with black 3m pad

Glass External (including panoramic roof)
12. Angelwax - Vision
13. Angelwax - H2GO

Interior
14. Anglewax - AnGEL (interior Vinyl and plastic restorer)
15. Angelwax - Vision


ETA: Step 9.1


Last edited by Jabriel on Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:00 pm 
almost there....point 9..after rinsing, DRY before applying BlackHole.

just a few tips:

Fastfoam is REALLY foamy...and if the water pressure is high enough...you will get a THICK blanket of snow that clings to the paintwork.

Anglex shampoo is HIGHLY contentrated, but doesn't provide huge amounts of foam...don't worry, it's the cleaning power and lubrication that matter.

Give the kentotek a shake before you use it. It can be used on wheels and paintwork safely and you don't need to spray much. You need to ensure that the bottle is set to spray and not jet.

Spray VISION directly onto the Microfibre cloth and not the glass. Buff off with a shortpile microfibre. (Don't sniff it...it smells like a urinal)! lol

H2GO...apply with a lint free cloth and buff off fter it starts hazing. Apply a second coat and you will get water shooting off the screen, with no wipers, about 20mph!

The AnGEL...apply sparingly...you need only a small amount...leave to soak in for 10 minutes and then buff off to a soft satin sheen.


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:09 am 
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Excellent. That again and great tips. Useful for me to have them all in one place.


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:57 am 
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This may already be known about although I have not seen it posted.

Contacted Angelwax yesterday about H2GO and Matt kindly replied to my question but also added "Remove the trigger when you have finished using the H2GO and replace the cap making sure there is no H2GO left in the trigger as this will destroy the trigger mechanism".

Did not realise, glad I had not thrown away the cap.

Tony


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:04 am 
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dekkerfish wrote:
This may already be known about although I have not seen it posted.

Contacted Angelwax yesterday about H2GO and Matt kindly replied to my question but also added "Remove the trigger when you have finished using the H2GO and replace the cap making sure there is no H2GO left in the trigger as this will destroy the trigger mechanism".

Did not realise, glad I had not thrown away the cap.

Tony


Didn't realise this. Thanks for sharing!!


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:28 pm 
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Yes my trigger is broken. Why isn't that instruction on the bottle. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:20 pm 
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The PW arrived today but I won't have a chance to clean the car until Friday. I did have a little play with the PW and the anglewax fast foam.

I was expecting it to be very dense and foamy and not as 'liquidy' as it actually was. How can this be addressed?

I used 1/10 fastfoam and 9/10 warm water.

ETA: I was using the CYC snow foam lance and just saw it has an adjustment on it. I can't remember which it setting it was on when I used it but think this was part of the reason at least?


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:57 pm 
You can reduce the aperture opening of the snow foam lance's nozzle...this will force out the foam into a fine spray.

The hosepipe to the washer ideally shouldn't be more than 10 metres long, so the water feed operates at maximum mains pressure.

Ideally, the pressure washer should have over 120 bar rating....I switched from a Karcher K2 which had problems with sf, up to a K4 and using fastfoam and the CYC lance and it produces a thick blanket of clingy foam.


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:32 am 
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willington wrote:
You can reduce the aperture opening of the snow foam lance's nozzle...this will force out the foam into a fine spray.

The hosepipe to the washer ideally shouldn't be more than 10 metres long, so the water feed operates at maximum mains pressure.

Ideally, the pressure washer should have over 120 bar rating....I switched from a Karcher K2 which had problems with sf, up to a K4 and using fastfoam and the CYC lance and it produces a thick blanket of clingy foam.


Thanks Willington. Will try changing the apeture and see if that helps.

Unfortunately the hosepipe is longer than 10m. I'll have to stick with it for the time being as it's in great condition and I've spent a lot of money on other bits. :(

The pressure washer is a Nilfisk 145.3 so that should be more than good enough.

On a separate note, Cleanstore have the K4 for approximately £130 (out of memory) so a bargain if anyone is looking to upgrade.


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 Post subject: Re: First proper clean
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:15 pm 
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Folks, need some more help.

I tried several times cleaning the car but am never really happy.

The issues are:

1. Snow foam is never the right density. It's usually too 'liquidy'.
2. I feel the mix of water and products is never right. (E.g. when using Anglewax Shampoo & E5 Citrus all purpose cleaner the dirt can still be seen on the car. Maybe I'm not applying enough pressure during the 2 bucket wash? Is there a measurement I should use for how much product to water? I didn't see anything on the packaging.)
3. During steps 3 and 8, the water always dries before I get to rise. (Am I taking too long?)

On a separate note, is it better to use warm or cold water at each stage?

Thanks in advance folks. Am planning a big clean so could do with getting it right this time.


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