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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:46 pm 
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Following on from my highly successful revisit of the Supernatural wax (see: http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/vie ... php?t=7530), I have bought a number of other products from the Supernatural range, namely the clay kit (which is still to arrive :cry: ), the finger foam (for applying the wax), the shampoo and the "Wookie Fist".

I am likely to compliment the range with a drying towel, but unlikely to buy the glass cloth ... who knows ... I might.

It's a shame that the clay (and Born Slippy) has yet to arrive, but my car does not need it having been machine polished recently and wearing a coat of Swissvax Best of Show. Dodo Juice Lime Prime/Lite made short work of that finish and prepared my paint perfectly for the Supernatural wax.

Since my first "second" play with the Supernatural wax, the car has covered almost 1000 miles and gone through a lot of that at supersonic speed (yes, SAABs are made by Aeroplane engineers :lol: ... well, ours were :wink: ) through rain, baking sun, midges, other bugs, farm dirt, narrowly missed some Dutch people who realised they were on the wrong side of the road just in time (or was I? No ... we were in Scotland, so I was right :lol: ), had the remaining dirt burned in with some blue lights (which luckily were not for me, phew!) and home again to have the remains of someones burger thrown over the paintwork for good effect :roll:

Yes, it's been "through the mill" and was ready for a maintenance wash.

This gives me the chance to try out my clay ... oh, no it doesn't :lol: Never mind, straight to the Supernatural shampoo and sheepskin mitten - which I have named Gizmo. Not very original, I know, but it did seem to turn nasty when I introduced it to water :twisted:

First up, the shampoo:

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This is a HIGHLY concentrated shampoo and if ever the price was to put you off, push that to the back of your mind. The bottle (a 250ml bottle in my case) is equipped with a pump mechanism which dispenses about half a teaspoon per pump. To put that into real money, it's three teaspoon to a tablespoon and two tablespoons to a fluid ounce. I know there was no conversion there, but I'm saying you need about half a tablespoon per TWO gallons of water (which is about three pumps per standard Halfords bucket). Wow! Really? Don't you need something like one fluid ounce per gallon? With "normal" shampoos, you do ... with Supernatural, you don't.

Go again ... I missed that ...

You need about half a tablespoon for a full bucket, making this one heck of a good purchase.

Is it any good, though? Does it actually clean?

Well, I can only answer that with reference to the Dodo Juice Sheepskin Mitten (AKA the "Wookie Fist") which I used in conjunction with the shampoo. My intention is to use this as a "system" to maintain my Supernatural wax finish. So, three pumps of the shampoo in the bucket and it's time to introduce Gizmo to the shampoo:

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Good Lord! He's thirsty :shock:

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Immersed and retrieved, he gulped a whole gallon down! I let some of the water fall off, but kept it well loaded to go at the car. I reckon it can hold something like two litres that can be transferred over to the car!

Before that, let's just hose the car down with clean water and see what we have:

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The boot shows the Supernatural test panel holding up nicely, but it could look better. Will the shampoo revive that? The second picture is the previous application of Swissvax Best of Show looking a little sorry for itself by now (almost a month on). I reckon a douse of Car Bath would revive that, but I'm moving onto a more pure finish now with Supernatural, so that will be coming off :wink:

So, washed with the new mitten and shampoo:

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I think that shows that the shampoo compliments the wax EXTREMELY WELL!!! :cool: The second picture shows that with another wax, it leaves a clean finish and one which is ready for a spritz of maintenance spray.

Let's have a close-up of that boot:

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Remember that the boot takes quite a hammering on these old turbo bricks! The spoiler does actually work and swirls air down hard onto the boot. It does look good for a thousand miles :cool:

So, how did you find the shampoo and the mitten?

The shampoo is ace - it does clean and it seems to clean very well indeed. In combination with the mitten (more about that in a bit) it glides around and is very slick to use. Good so far, then. When using the mitten, it does need rinsing well after each application over the car.

After the bonnet:

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... and tipped out, after the boot and two sides:

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It is imperative to rinse the mitten out well after each application over the car. Immerse in a full bucket of water and shake it around well in the bucket to get all the dirt out. As you pull the mitten out the the bucket, us a strong spray (I use the fan spray on a Hozelock gun) to get any residual muck out of the deep fibres.

The deep pile helps to get into all those little nooks and crannies, but do take car that you don't leave any wool in there that might collect dirt, start to rub and go rusty over the next year. This is difficult on old cars because there are so many areas that might nick such a mitten. I have read that badges are a problem, but our cars are debadged anyway, so no worries there :D I did find the bodykit trying to snag the wool and keep it well clear of rubber! Door rubbers, boot rubbers and the residual wool left in the bucket when the wheels were done with another mitten left wool all over the tyres.

In all, an excellent shampoo to compliment the wax and a damn good mitten. I will be using those alongside the wax on that black car and it has encouraged me to get the Supernatural drying towel, too ... just for the sake of completion.

I'll move over to the white car now which was less than perfect. Don't let that put you off, because both products are good. My white car has been the subject of finding perfection, too, over the last couple of years and I have found it. Unfortunately, this shampoo and mitten do not get the most perfect effect on my white car ... but they do on my black car. While they would certainly "do" and I could happily use them on both cars, I'll be returning to my normal routine on the white car hereafter. I will be replacing my hitherto routine for the black car with this mitten and shampoo.

Why? What went wrong?

Well, white cars get covered in little black dots which did not come off with the mitten. With a microfibre towel popped into the shampoo solution and worked with a finger they all came off. I usually use a microfibre pad to wash that car and I will be returning to that routine. The shampoo did clean well, but did not revive beading. I seem to have a perfect shampoo that works perfectly with the LSP I use on the white car and it's worth sticking with products that play well together. Yes, it's a wash and wax type shampoo and Supernatural is not ... and that is like debating chalk and cheese, but it's not going to form part of my normal routine for the white car. For my black car ... YES, THANK YOU!!!

Right ... let's get the rest of the car Supernaturalised :!:

I don't have many pictures here, unfortunately, but my method was to use my rotary polisher to apply Lime Prime Lite over the panels with a 3M blue finishing pad to clean off any old products and then the Supernatural finger foam to apply the wax.

Lime Prime by rotary works very well indeed. I found that spreading it on the slowest speed (900 RPM on my polisher) and then moving up to about 1250 RPM to work the cleaners was a good method. Once the product just starts to dry, lift off and grab a microfibre towel to remove the residue. Gleaming, creaking clean paint. Lovely :cool:

Next, out with the finger foam:

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... worked into the wax and spread over the paintwork, it's nice to use but a little uncomfortable for me since my hands are pretty big and it's a little too small for three fingers and too large for just two. I found myself using it more like a pad in the end until ...

... a truck passed, some grit obviously made it onto the paint and I ended up grinding a little swirl into the bonnet :evil: Quick squirt of Lime Prime on the rotary with the 3M blue pad and it was gone. Sorry, but that's the end of that foam for me - it's been cleaned, gone back in its bag and will be swapped or given away, but never again used by me. I had exactly that problem with the yellow round pads you see in all the detailing shops and the Meguiars own brand. I resorted to an oval white foam pad with less density to finish the job; one from Flexipads, like Rubbish Boys sell.

Left to cure for a good hour while I washed the white car, it buffed off lovely ... despite the little spritz of Supernatural Mist that came from above :lol: The sun is out now, so hopefully, it will cure well and get that deep shine I've seen before.

These are some that I got earlier:

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Perfect! :cool:

Want to see the whole car?

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Nice for overcast weather :D

So, by way of summary, I'll say that this little lot works together nicely.

I reckon the shampoo will work well with any mitten or pad and will compliment other Dodo Juice waxes and perhaps other more natural waxes. The mitten works well and will work with any shampoo. If you need a little more bite, have a microfibre towel handy to dab over a finger on any stubborn areas.

The finger foam? Good luck ... you might have more than me :lol:

The wax? Lovely stuff - this version seems really good. I say "this version" but I'm not sure which version it is. It is the latest one, to date, but whether that is V2, or V2.01 or V2.02, I don't know what they might call it. Yes, it's the latest one to date.

As a system, this little lot works well together and will no doubt be complimented further by the drying towel. If you want the purest finish for your perfect polished car, then this is the kit to go for. As time goes by, I will no doubt switch to the Sour Power shampoo, which is a wash and wax shampoo and some Red Mist to revive the finish ... then, on a suitable day in the Autumn, it will be over to my regular Car-Lack68 and Collinite combo for the winter. I hope to enjoy this through the rest of the summer and we'll be seeing it again next spring, no doubt.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:48 pm 
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... go on, then ... some glamour shots in brighter light. The house does shadow the car from the sun in the evening, but it still looks ace!

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The whole car:

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... and straight on shot of the side of the car ... yes, almost a smile there :D

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... and yes, I know ... the t-shirt is inside out :oops:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:19 pm 
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Great work and thanks very much for the time you take to show us the way :lol: I dont know if youve looked recently but i posted a pic of one of our persians Gizmo in your thread cats chillin :lol:. As you know i have the wax but didnt have enough cash on me to buy the Monster (mitt) or shampoo but i did get Sour Power in my raffle win pack which i used yesterday for the 1st time and loved! When or if you get the HD Wax you get 2 great applicators with it that are sealed and pre dampened! great they are. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:40 pm 
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Cheers bud! I am soooooo happy with the finish - the look, the products, the fun, the heritage, all of it. Love it :cool:

Regarding applicators - I like these:
http://www.flexipadshop.com/product4100 ... 80824.html

The density of the foam is just right so as not to grind dirt into the paint and not soak up too much product from the tub.

You can see from the "detailing" section where a lot of own brand products come from :lol:
http://www.flexipadshop.com/category1580824.html ... oh, there's the three finger applicators :wink:

For cloths, I love these:
http://www.flexipadshop.com/product5930 ... 60824.html

I'm sure I'll get some HD Wax in at some point, maybe Autumn time to see how it fairs against Collinite. The kit does look good. I know there are many haters for those red cloths, but I like them. Sainsbury sell a blue one that is VERY similar.

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