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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:08 pm 
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Today was a fun day ... I got to play with a new product and really enjoyed the experience. I have borrowed a bottle of Chemical Guys Wet Mirror Finish from my pal Andy (Murray on DW & here ... and the SAAB forums ;) ), well, swapped for my bottle of Poorboys Black Hole to see if we can get on with these products that the other has not had much success with ... if that makes sense. I've yet to catch up with him as to whether he is enjoying the Poorboys Black Hole glaze, but I really like this product.

I washed the car with Zymöl Auto Wash, dried off (yes, chamois :roll: :lol: ) and being a warm, but not sunny day I decided to deal with some defects which meant that the boot and the sides were polished with Meg's #7 but the bonnet left "as is". I used a microfibre pad and squeezed a small amount of product out onto the pad and worked as instructed on a 2'x2' area in small circles, working until the product went clear. I used a Eurow microfibre to clean off the residue and moved onto the next area ... I repeated the bonnet and the boot, so two coats of Wet Mirror Finish.

Some pictures? Of course ...

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http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... CF8728.jpg

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http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... CF8729.jpg

What a fantastic product! It is an all-in-one glaze (I think), shine enhancer and leaves behind a layer of sealant. It is very much along the same lines as Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine, or Meguiars NXT Tech Wax but ... this is how both of those products should be - easy to work, easy to remove without smearing. Typical of Chemical Guys products, it is well formulated to be worked by hand or machine and does exactly what it says it will do - leave a wet-look mirror finish :cool: Superb! Again, this is exactly what Meg's NXT Tech Wax or Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine should be. The resulting surface was slick and creaked nicely with a wipe of the finger. Looks? Well, it's a bit sterile, but I think it would suit some cars - it's somewhere between AG UDS (which is very sterile, IMO) and Meg's NXT Tech Wax (which is less sterile, but nothing like the warmth of a "proper wax").

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http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... CF8727.jpg

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http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... CF8731.jpg

Nice, eh?

I popped a layer of Chemical Guys Jetseal on the sides and the boot - again, boy, what a nice product to work with ... just apply, let it cure and wipe it off. So easy ... why can't all products be like this?

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http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... CF8746.jpg

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Here's the reflection in the boot - yes, that's a mirror :cool:

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http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... CF8735.jpg

... and finally, a couple of whole car shots from different elevations - by this point I had popped a layer of Collinite 476S wax on the bonnet.

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http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... CF8750.jpg

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http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... CF8751.jpg

For this car, I prefer the depth of shine I can get with other products (namely, Einszett Waxpolish Soft, Clearkote YMW/CMW and Collinite 915 ... or a "posh wax") and I'm unlikely to use this product again on our black car. I think more modern, more sporty cars would look great with it - something Japanese, perhaps. In summary - great product, does exactly what it purports to do with effortless ease and plays well with other products used beforehand and layered on top.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:29 pm 
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Excellent Paul, I have it in my sealant case and I do enjoy using it and it does look :cool:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:28 pm 
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amazing !!!
unbelievable !!!

I ordered Wet Mirror Finish with some products here and I'm very impatient to try it !
Wow ! What a good glaze !

I wait for my shipment ! :cry:
Maybe, I could have it at the end of this week ! I hope so !

Greetings from France


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:38 pm 
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Thanks Herbie :wink: Personally, I prefer a deeper, warmer finish that I can achieve with an oily glaze and waxes on this car - it is single stage paint and seems to like that kind of treatment.

The Chemical Guys Wet Mirror Finish product is very good indeed and I would certainly use it again. On more modern cars, or perhaps more exotic cars I think the finish would really suit. The finish is very much along the lines of Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine or Meguiars NXT Tech Wax, but an absolute breeze to apply :cool:

You will be very pleased with this purchase, I am sure - just remember, it is an all-in-one cleaner, gloss enhancer and sealant. It is designed to adhere straight to polished paint and might clean off underlying layers of glaze or all-in-one type polishes (filler polishes).

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As my order was arrived on last Friday, I could be try my products on Wednesday, you will see my first photoreport concerning my job in a few days, I'm so impatient to do that !
Wait and see ! :wink:
And so many thanks for your cautions of use and your own comments concerning Wet Mirror Finish !


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cheers for replying in my thread mate:D

excellent results there from the mirror shine loving the finish:D

will take your advise and buy some carlite:P


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great finish, i have a bottle aswell, its top stuff


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I love the stuff :D

I have heard that its not very durable but hey who cares when
it goes on & off like a dream :wink:

I dont mind re-applying as its so easy to use :cool:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:34 pm 
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^ That's a fantastic picture :cool:

As you say, it goes on and comes off so easily that it's great to have around for that instant fix. I could quite happily use this product and just this product ... well, but polish as well, but curiosity always gets the better of me though and there's just so much out there to try :oops:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:49 pm 
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Quick question pjgh.

How the hell do you get such a mirror finish to your car? I've seen you do multiple write-ups on new products etc and your finish seems to be mirror like before you even start applying anything.

My car, and most cars I see have less clean finish, id say more of a ripple effect?

Images are the best way to explain;

This last picture you posted is how my car tends to look all over;
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/ ... CF9417.jpg

Whereas this is the finish I cant seem to work out!
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/cg ... .sized.jpg

Some shots occasionally seem better when taken with a camera but it's not really the case in the flesh (this is my car);

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 6952_n.jpg

Okay so it wasnt really a quick question but any advice would be appreciated! It may simply be the paint finish. My car is a Saab btw.

Many Thanks!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:57 pm 
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Thanks for the compliment! Good paint helps :wink:

Our convertible is old-fashioned single stage paint which seems to get a better finish than modern paints.

As I understand it, modern paint is primer, the thinnest slip of paint that can be got away with and a thick layer of clearcoat over the top. As the clear dries, it runs ever so slightly producing the ripple effect - this is often referred to as "orange peel". This can be corrected - a gentle wetsanding will remove it and then polish up the haze to a bright gloss.

Old-fashioned paint is primer and a thicker layer of paint, possibly applied in two sessions. The finish tends to be better and polishes flat like glass easily.

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Many thanks for that.

Keep up the good work.

Tom


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:37 pm 
I have been toying with the idea of using Mirror wet and a layer of permanon, followed up by a LSP of wax..... but have a few concerns:

If Mirror Wet is layered over Permanon...its cleansing properties could rip off the permanon (a waste). Permanon should be applied directly to the paintwork.

Perhaps use permanon first, then use an alternative non-cleansing glaze?

Any thoughts or suggestions?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:43 pm 
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Chemical Guys Wet Mirror Finish is best applied to clean paint. I'd say it's one or the other when it comes to Permanon.
Do the solvents in wax remove Permanon? If not, I don't think Chemical Guys Wet Mirror Finish would remove it either.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:54 pm 
Thanks Paul.

I only asked this question as in the early part of the thread, you mentioned that MW has cleansing properties and should be applied direct to the paintwork. However, so should permanon.


Perhaps best to wait and see what other Forum members suggest before taking the plunge. :)


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