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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:23 am 
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I really shouldn't be posting this here :twisted:

At Tesco tonight, we had the compulsory wander down the aisle with the car cleaning products for a sneer at the "normal" car washing items. My brain did something really wrong and rebelled against my common sense and forced me to pick up a bottle of "Deep Shine Car Wax".

I could say a lot about the £1.87 price tag - gotta be worth a punt at that price, but then if it was good it would cost more ... you only get what you pay for (which might lead one to wrongly presume that sex with a prostitute is going to be better than sex with your wife :shock: ), but then look at some of those waxes that cost thousands of pounds.

Of course it's going to be rubbish. I did a quick google and found two entries - one a chap who called it the worst product he'd ever used (0/5) and another that said something like "for those that doubt the almighty Tesco Deep Shine Car Wax", but leads to an archive page of a forum where the topic cannot be found. So, on the one hand rubbish and on the other, potentially "almighty" :?

Now I've bought it, I have to use it. What does it smell like? It smells of pure chemicals. When I first sniffed it, I immediately thought of shoe polish, but the smell is more subtle than that. Anyway, I've sniffed so much now that I feel a little high ... which is probably why I'm writing so much about it here.

I'm intrigued to try it ... so little has been written about it. Has no-one tried it? Does everyone just chuck it away and never tell anyone? I think I'm known here as someone who likes to try things out ... this time I give you ultra-budget car wax. I'm going to try it on the black car because that will show off this 'ere shine which I am compelled to test against the leading brands (from the front of the bottle). I think I'll do the boot, since it's a nice square area that can be isolated quite easily.

Now ... should I also buy the Tesco own shampoo wash/wax? Should I prep the paint with their budget polish, too? I am put off by their paint renovator, which actually states on the back that renovated paint can be easily re-sprayed :shock: :lol: Really? It's that abrasive, is it?

Right ... my plan ... Zymol shampoo wash. This gives good cleaning without adding too much glossiness. Next, Car-Lack68 NSC to cleanse the paint and remove any previous products. Finally, the almost certainly rubbish/potentially almighty Tesco Deep Shine Car Wax.

Roll on the weekend ... or maybe one evening this week. My comparison will be against Car-Lack68 NSC/Collinite 476S (so, essentially a good quality wax), Car-Lack68 NSC/AG UDS (so, essentially, a comparative deep shine liquid product) and the shine that I achieved from DW WWW Wax on top of Car-Lack68 NSC/Collinite 476S (so, compared against "the wettest wax" that used to be available).

Pray to your Gods ... I dare to go where no (sensible) detailer has gone before :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:43 am 
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Tony@Cherished wrote:
... as the saying goes, don't knock it till you've tried it.


... unless it's Morris dancing :twisted:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:26 pm 
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I often find that "normal" car products are written in a "normal" language for idiots to understand easily. In which case, i cannot understand what the product will do etc etc etc.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:56 pm 
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i'd laf my ass off if it gave the deepest shine you had ever seen and lasted 6 months!! haha

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:50 pm 
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Okay guys ... the verdict is out; certainly in my eyes, anyway. I have tested this product on the boot (a small square section) of my wife's black car ... risky, I know, but it does put a certain pressure to make the best of it :lol:

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I filled a bucket with clean water and soaked my chamois in it. I half filled another bucket with water and the recommended amount of Zymöl shampoo (the green stuff). The boot was washed using a microfibre pad and given a good clean.

I sploshed the bucket of clean water over the boot to clear off the shampoo and good sheeting was apparent.

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Car-Lack68 NSC was then applied using a moistened microfibre pad. I did this for a couple of reasons (1) to clean/cleanse the paintwork further and (2) to give the wax a good comparison to other products, since they had been applied on top of Car-Lack68 NSC - products like Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine (the main comparison) and Detailing World Wet Wet Wet wax.

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The pad was remarkably clean, but I expected it to be :wink:

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Okay let's just buff that finish and prepare it with a quartered microfibre for the main product in question ...

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... with fear and intrepidation ... there's no more putting it off ... on goes a good blob of Tesco Deep Shine Car Wax using the other side of the microfibre pad. The instructions do say to use a soft cloth and they do say that the product can be applied onto wet or dry paint. Oooookay ... so a moistened pad will be fine, then.

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"Leave to dry to a haze and then buff", it says. Okay, so leave to dry ... does it pass the swipe test? Kind of :shock:

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Buff off ... my goodness this is hard work. I'm buffing and nothing is coming off. That's good, surely? It's a very resistant product. More pressure ... now it's coming off, but it is leaving really bad streaks. More pressure still ... nope ... this is hard :? Harder still ... now the streaks are moving.

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That took a good four or five minutes to shift just this area - thank goodness I didn't do the whole car :twisted: Let's inspect the result. Well, it is shiny but do be aware that the camera can lie. Close up, it has left shadows in the paint and there is still some little streaks left.

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I wonder if it layers? On with another coat, leave to dry and buff off. I'm persistent, aren't I? Phew! I'm really pooped now! I don't believe the shine is any better that with just one layer. On close inspection there are still shadows in the paint which some harder rubbing does start to shift. I have got rid of all the streaking now, though.

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... nope!
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How does it compare? Well, the streaking problem is very much like I have experienced with Meguiars NXT Tech Wax and with Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine (from early experiences of this product) which needed a lot of hard work buffing. It is not a nice product to work with at all. If the shine is good, it might be worth it, but the shine is not at all good. I think it is no better than just Car-Lack68 NSC on its own, if not worse given the streaking and shadowing it seems to put into the paint. I have found since that Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine does go on top of Car-Lack68 NSC really easily ... wipe on and wipe off ... and it layers.

I would say correctly applied, AG UDS will give as good a finish as Meg's #7! That's quite a bold thing to say, but it does give you a point of reference. This product is nowhere near anything I have put onto my paint. Back when I first started, a layer of AG SRP would give a better shine and I would have left it at that. Talking of SRP ... this product leaves loads of white dust. I did wonder whether removing it with a spritz of QD on a quartered microfibre might make a better job, but I wanted to test the finish without confusing other products.

I had wondered whether this wax was simply a re-brand of something else on the shelf and if so might prove to be a cheap alternative. There is actually a faint reminiscence of AG SRP, but that's probably just the silicone, or something they have in common. I think I have pinned the main smell down now ... it's something like liquid furniture polish :shock: It does get you high ... or rather gives you a headache from repeated sniffing. I have scoured our cupboard under the sink for something similar in smell, but I suspect I am going to have to go to a supermarket and sniff as many products as I can before getting thrown out :twisted: If anyone else fancies joining in this little mystery, pop along to Tesco, sniff the wax and then run over to the polishes aisle and see what it compares to.

I didn't unpack my hose, so I couldn't try a beading test ... now I'm writing this, I really wish I had :roll: I was not happy with the finish and needed to finish up, so I popped on a layer of DW WWW wax and buffed. My goodness! What a dramatic improvement. This wax is slightly better than Meg's #7 in my opinion and leaves a lovely shimmering shine. This really showed up what a poor product the Tesco Deep Shine Car Wax is. The shadowing was now gone and any last little streaks. I'm happy again :D

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So ... in a word ... RUBBISH! Really poor! I can now take it back to Tesco and get my money back, having compared it to the competition ... all £1.87 of it ...

Tim - If you want to split this thread and put it in the reviews section, feel free.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:48 pm 
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So you highly recommend it then...need to find my nearest Tesco's.... :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:38 pm 
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... maybe I'll do another application at some point, using the QD trick to remove smears and get to photograph the beading. Having put the DW WWW wax on top and returned it to a good shine again, I know I can repeat the application of the product and "deal with" the poor finish straight away, easily afterwards. I could even put up with the rubbish finish to see how durable it is and how any beading lasts.

It really is a poor product, not just because it is awful to remove and gives a dull shine, but because you need a battery of good products to assist you with the poor removal and to cover the bad shine :lol:

Not only is it a pig to work with, gives a poor finish, but that finish feels bad. Good quality products leave silky feeling, glossy finish. Proper wax feels lovely - this felt tacky. My hand did not glide over it - because of that I really do think beading would be rubbish (maybe very good, initially ... for one day) and it would get a greasy finish very quickly. If I try it again, I'll leave it on longer and we'll see :wink:

I do wonder if it has a place in anyone's repertoire, but for only a couple of quid more you can get Turtle Wax or some other name which will at least leave the user feeling like they've used a good product :wink: From about four times the amount, you can buy a good product that will be great to work with and leave a stunning finish. My interest was purely because of how obviously low-class the product is ... they've yet to make a Tesco Value wax though. Guess who'll be first in line to try it :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:47 am 
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Oh no! I posted my review over on DW and while it met with an expected mix of mirth and condescension, there was an interesting post about using Adsa's equivalent. See: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/s ... ostcount=8

I had a quick google for Asda car wax and came up with this post: http://www.carcareadvice.co.uk/product- ... -stuff.htm

I think it is the product the chap spoke of on DW and if so, it certainly sounds like a promising product at under a couple of quid. Personally, I somewhat doubt the claim that it is as good as AG SRP, but perhaps she meant for resultant shine, rather than for swirl filling and so on ... We all know that we can boost that shine abundantly with good products and good technique.

Well, I'm going to try it just for fun so stay tuned for the next instalment: Asda el cheapo polish/wax :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:08 pm 
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I bought the Asda car polish today ... it does smell very much like the Tesco product, but less complex. This one smells quite simply of furniture polish (like Pledge or Mr Sheen) with no additional background nuances. I can't believe I'm using words like "nuances" for a product that actually costs £1.82 :lol:

So ... I'm inclined to believe this is a different concoction, but most definitely of the same family (most likely the Tetrosyl people who make Car Plan and Turtle Wax). One evening when we don't have rain, I'll give it a go :wink:

It'll be Lidl after that, I think ... Sainsbury's don't make an own brand car polish/wax, do they?

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you sir, are a nut. haha

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:01 am 
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Best read i've had all day!

your going to have a belting headache tomorrow after sniffing that polish ;)


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:23 am 
Crikey Paul, you're a braver mean than me, but glad that someone tried it.

Thanks for the test and the excellent write up, it made me realise what it was that I liked so much about the polishes and waxes that I use and that is that they are fairly easy on, fairly easy off and leave a super depth and shine.


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LOL ... I was down at Tesco today and managed to sneak the tops off their Colour Restorer and compare the look and smell to T-Cut Color Restorer. One and the same, methinks :roll:

... anyway, I noticed they had a special on Car Pride Shampoo in the £1 section. Having had some fun with Car Pride before, I started to read the back of the bottle ... "may remove wax and the dull the finish" :shock:

... it went back on the shelf. I have my threshold and a warning that stern puts me off, as does the "clean paintwork can easily be re-sprayed" warning on the back of both the Tesco and T-Cut Colour Restorer bottles :lol:

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